Sex at Dawn: How We Mate, Why We Stray, and What It Means for Modern Relationships - Christopher Ryan, Cacilda Jetha Audiobook
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Since Darwin’s day, we’ve been told that sexual monogamy comes naturally to our species. Mainstream science - as well as religious and cultural institutions - has maintained that men and women evolved in families in which a man’s possessions and protection were exchanged for a woman’s fertility and fidelity. But this narrative is collapsing. Fewer and fewer couples are getting married, and divorce rates keep climbing as adultery and flagging libido drag down even seemingly solid marriages.
How can reality be reconciled with the accepted narrative? It can’t be, according to renegade thinkers Christopher Ryan and Cacilda Jetha. While debunking almost everything we “know” about sex, they offer a bold alternative explanation in this provocative and brilliant book.
Ryan and Jetha’s central contention is that human beings evolved in egalitarian groups that shared food, child care, and, often, sexual partners. Weaving together convergent, frequently overlooked evidence from anthropology, archaeology, primatology, anatomy, and psychosexuality, the authors show how far from human nature monogamy really is. Human beings everywhere and in every era have confronted the same familiar, intimate situations in surprisingly different ways. The authors expose the ancient roots of human sexuality while pointing toward a more optimistic future illuminated by our innate capacities for love, cooperation, and generosity.
BONUS AUDIO: Includes a Preface written and read by author Christopher Ryan.
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This post has 7 comments with rating of 3/5
September 10th, 2020
They’re correct that monogamy is unnatural. Rape is natural.
We don’t want what’s natural.
September 10th, 2020
Read this years ago, though it’s always tempting to have an audio version available.
The scholarship is flakey quite a bit of the time, and too much of the writing is tediously anecdotal and private, but there are moments when Ryan and Jetha put their finger precisely on what was wrong with the patriarchy, and what we might be able to do about it.
The book is silly, but thought provoking (like most of Chesterton, and all of Belloc): there is a place for such essays (though it may be temporary).
The incels won’t like it.
Thanks again Haru55.
September 11th, 2020
First half is fine - worth it. Second half is mostly the authors world-view/politics - skip it.
September 11th, 2020
I have nothing against polygamy; I have practiced it and I have come to know many in the Portland poly scene. *But* this pro-poly book (a sacred text to many) is truly dreadful.
If you read it carefully, with endnotes, you will see rhe authors constantly fall prey to logical fallacies (including how they overstate their main claim), provide no sources for many claims, and the sources they do provide are often dated and/or misconstrued.
I’m so disappointed that so many educated people accept this book as fact, without question.
Please see Emily Nagoski’s blog for a multipart online review of the book. Nagoski is a Smith College professor and sex educator. (Nagoski’s analysis of ‘Sex at Dawn’ restored my faith in the ability of sex-positive people to read and think critically!)
September 11th, 2020
skay, you old dog! Do you guys still toss the car keys into the hazardous bowl of chance, Dice Man-fashion?
Several of the authorial assumptions do seem a bit off. “Pointing toward a more optimistic future illuminated by our innate capacities for love, cooperation, and generosity” - these are indeed innate capacities of our human nature. And they naturally exist alongside our other natural, innate capacities - for hatred, hostility, greed, and fear. Antinomies of yin & yang (or whatevs) - complex whole beings, not simplified utopian half-beings.
Of course, there was likely nothing more patriarchal (or “natural”) than ancient tribal or group structures, wherein the coercive “Headman” or chieftain, most probably ruthlessly controlled access to the fertile female population, binding his clique closer to him by imparting favours. (”Humans evolved in egalitarian groups” - my arse they did)
Many things we do are “unnatural” - and natural does not necessarily equal good. Clothes; harnessed electricity; heating; houses; refrigeration; industry/technology; medical care/hospitals/life-saving operations; preservatives; sanitation; cities; nation states; all are unnatural.
I suppose the lesson is: a person ought to think before they, well, whatever it is that they do do…
December 7th, 2021
@skay, thanks for the heads up. Saved myself some time.
Emily Nagoski’s review can be found here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140808123320/http://www.thedirtynormal.com/blog/2013/02/22/book-review-sex-at-dawn/
December 7th, 2021
@skay, thanks for the heads up. You saved me the trouble of finding that out on my own.
Emily Nagoski’s review can be found here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140808123320/http://www.thedirtynormal.com/blog/2013/02/22/book-review-sex-at-dawn/
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